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Podcast: December Month In Review

Eric Byres, CEO of aDolus and of Tofino fame, and I discuss the top three stories from December 2020 and give a Win, Fail and Prediction. https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/unsolicitedresponse/21-1_December.mp3 Topics: The Solarwinds hackDragos raising $110M in venture...

Podcast: September ICS Security Month In Review

Podcast: September ICS Security Month In Review

The ICS Security Month in Review episodes cover two to three big stories from the month plus a win, a fail and a prediction. This month's stories include: S4x21's cancellation and S4x22 dates(7:01) Ransomware in ICS (12:30) SCIDMark and other ICS cyber incident...

Podcast: ATT&CK For ICS Evaluations

Podcast: ATT&CK For ICS Evaluations

Detecting Triton Type Attacks In this episode I talk with Otis Alexander of MITRE about ATT&CK for ICS Evaluations. We begin with a discussion on ATT&CK and the ICS version of ATT&CK. If you are familiar with this, skip to 17:09 where we begin our...

Podcast: Splunk’s OT Security Add-On

Podcast: Splunk’s OT Security Add-On

Most of the OT Detection and Asset Management solutions have developed 'integrations' with SIEMs, with Splunk and QRadar being the most common. I put integrations in quotes because they did little more than push alerts and events to the SIEMs with little context. This...

Podcast: What OT Can Learn From IT

Podcast: What OT Can Learn From IT

We hear it all the time. OT is different than IT, and IT doesn't understand OT. People argue about IT/OT convergence. In all these discussions I believe two things are true. OT doesn't really understand IT, and the similar, but not identical, requirements that mission...


2020-15: Building and Using Digital Twins with Mike Aylott of KBC

2020-14: Matt Wyckhouse of Finite State on ICS Firmware Testing

2020-13: May – ICS Security Month In Review

2020-12: COVID-19 Impact on Careers, ICS Security and S4x21

2020-11: S4x20 Closing Panel

2020-10: Interview with Inventor and Legend Ed Schweitzer

2020-9: Interview with Bryan Owen of OSIsoft

2020-8: Tenable’s OT Strategy with Marty Edwards

2020-7: Thomas Parenty on Board of Directors Responsibility in Cyber Risk and Business Risk

2020-6: ICS Threat Intel with Sergio Caltagirone

2020-5: An Interview with Andy Greenberg – Author of Sandworm

2020-4: Kelly Jackson Higgins Interviews Dale

2020-3: The Cabana Sessions with Reid Wightman, Stephan Hilt and Lord Remorin

2020-2: Megan Samford on Incident Command System for ICS (ICS4ICS)

2020-1: Interview with DHS CISA Director Krebs


2019-14: Interview with Marina Krotofil

2019-13: Sean McBride on ICS Cybersecurity Education

2019-12: An Interview with Patrick Miller from Sochi, Russia

2019-11: S4x19 Closing Panel with Dale, Rob Lee and Zach Tudor

2019-10: Rockwell Automation Cybersecurity

2019-9: ForeScout’s Strategy Post SecurityMatters Acquisition

2019-8: An Interview with Jonathan Homer of DHS

2019-7: ICS Firewall Market Analysis and Software / Firmware Integrity with Eric Byres

2019-6: Truth or Consequences? … Consequence Based Risk Management Approaches

2019-5: Maritime Cybersecurity

2019-4: RSA Conference / ICS Village Report 

2019-3: Robert Graham Interview at S4x19 

2019-2: Is The Purdue Model Dead?

2019-1: 4 Takeaways from 2018 plus my S4x19 Mini-Keynote 

S4 Stage Interviews

Dale interviews Ed Schweitzer of SEL on the S4x20 Main Stage. Ed is a prolific inventor and still very technical almost 3 decades after he invented the digital relay and started SEL.

Dale interviewed Andy Greenberg, author of Sandworm, on the S4x20 Main Stage.

Claroty, Gravwell, Nozomi and Security Matters competed in the ICS Detection Challenge at S4x18. In this session Eric Byres, John Cusimano and Dale Peterson discuss the Asset Inventory portion of the contest.